Cynthia A. Lucia

Other Events:

• Eby ID Number: Waterloo-133732
• Residence: 1861, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; Methodist
• Residence: 1871, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; NC Methodist

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• Name: C. Ira Lucia
• Eby ID Number: 00116-7311.1
• Residence: 1845, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada
• Occupation: 1861, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; Farmer
• Residence: 1861, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; Methodist
• Residence: 1864, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; Upper Block Lot 124
• Occupation: 1871, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; Farmer
• Residence: 1871, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; NC Methodist
• Occupation: 1880, Lexington, Sanilac, Michigan, USA; farmer

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Rsrch. Note:
From:"Deb Gosselin"

Query for Newsletter and Website Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 19:39:51 -0400 LUCIA and CLEMENS. My great great grandfather IRA C LUCIA married Henrietta Springer 05 Oct 1845 in Preston. I have never been able to confirm the names of Ira's parents. He was born in New York. Family lore says his mother was CYNTHIA CLEMENS. In an 1880 census in Michigan in the US, Ira says his father was born in France and his mother in Canada. Also, this couple's oldest daughter MARIETTA Lucia (also spelled as Mary Etta) may have been born before their marriage. Can anyone help with info on any birth records that old or any knowledge of the Lucia family going backwards from Ira? Deb Gosselin 1015 San JUan drive SE Grand Rapids MI 49506

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"Deb Gosselin" To:"Darryl Bonk"

Subject:Re: Query for Newsletter and Website Date:Tue, 9 Aug 2005


Thanks so much. The date for Manuel is interesting. I had his death as 10/25/1874 not 1871. I thought I got that off his headstone. However, if 1871 is correct, then that places his birthdate within a few days of Marietta's (depending on which of many sources you believe as to her age) so it is possible they were twins.

The other children are:

Cynthia A 1/1/1849 d 3/20/1917 in Lexington MI (single); twin to Sarah Sarah A 1/1/1849 (your age per 1880 census is off a bit) Note the huge gap between Marietta and Manuel to the twins. I still suspect Manuel died in 1874 rather than 1871 and thus would have been born in 1847 rather than 1844. Sarah died 2/9/1883 in Lexington (single) John Franklin 1/3/1851 d 4/27/1928 in Grand Rapids, MI Left descendents Isaac Washington 1/1/1854 d 8/16/1842 in Grand Rapids, MI May be one or two descendents Aaron Jefferson abt 1856 d abt 11/22/1918 in Lexingotn, MI married but no children Emma Jane 5/17/1859 (my great grandmother) d 12/22/1927 in North Muskegon, MI at the home of her daughter Cynthia Lucia (Husted) Gwatkin; many descendents (I'm one of nine, and have 11 cousins)

I have always been baffled by the three younger boys having American patriot names as middle names, especially since Henrietta was doubly descended from Loyalists! Ira claimed in the 1880 census that his father was born in France and his mother in Canada, yet he was born in New York. That could make sense if the mother was a Clemens as claimed with her family originally from Pennsylvania or New York. I can envision her being shunned for marrying a non-Mennonite.

There could also be a connection to John Bamberger. Family lore says that Ira's parents "died when he was young and he was adopted by a Pennsylvania Dutch family named Baumgartner." However, I could never find a Waterloo area family with that name. I did, however, notice that Ira bought his first land from John Bamberger and also noticed that "Marietta and James Lever" (this being Ira's oldest daughter and her husband) were legatees of Bamberger. It's possible the connection could be to the Levers, but seems too coincidental. Also, Christian Clemens was executor of the Bamberger will so there seems to be some common tie here. I have been trying to unravel this mystery for over 30 years!

Thanks.

Deb Gosselin

Ira married Henrietta Springer 5 Oct 1845, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. Henrietta (daughter of Benjamin Springer and Mary Rykeman) was born 30 Jun 1819, Doon (Kitchener), Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown. [Group Sheet]

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• Name: Henrietta Lucia
• Eby ID Number: 00116-7311
• Residence: 1845, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada
• Residence: 1861, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; Methodist
• Residence: 1871, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; NC Methodist

Notes:

Henrietta Springer, "was married to Ira Lucia. They resided about three miles north of Preston where he was engaged in farming."


Eby, Ezra E. (1895). A biographical history of Waterloo township and other townships of the county: being a history of the early settlers and their descendants, mostly all of Pennsylvania Dutch origin: as also much other unpublished historical information chiefly of a local character. Berlin [Kitchener, Ont.]: [s.n.].

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• Eby ID Number: 00116-7293.2
• Epidemic: 1834, Blenheim Twp., Oxford Co., Ontario, Canada; Cholera

Notes:

Benjamin was a pathmaster in Blenheim Township, Oxford Co., Ontario for the 14th concession in the year 1830 and 1834. Taken from the Blenheim Township Minute Book. Oxford County Branch, Ontario Genealogical Society.

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"... On the 18th day of June, 1812, President Madison declared war against England. This placed the Pennsylvania people in a very trying position and as they could not be induced to take up arms, they were pressed into service as teamsters and were obliged to furnish their own horses. Ox-teams were employed when no horses were to be had. Those who were required to serve in this capacity were Christian Schneider Jr., Peter Erb, Joseph Eby, Samuel Eschelman, Benjamin Springer, Frederick Herner, Jacob Bock, Henry Pannebecker, John Scheirich, Henry Wismer, John Biehn, Adam Shupe and Wildfong.

In January, 1813, General Proctor defeated the Americans near Detroit, capturing General Wilkinson with 500 men. In September General Harrison having been joined by a fierce body of riflemen from Kentucky, advanced towards Detroit in such force that General Proctor crossed the Detroit River and retreated up the Thames. On being followed by the American Army of 3500 men, he made a stand at Moraviantown with 800 British and 500 Indians under Tecumseh. This warrior was killed, and Proctor retreated in great confusion to Burlington Heights in order to join the Niagara Army. A number of the Waterloo people were up at the battle on the Thames. These Waterloo boys acting as teamsters had taken shelter in a swamp near by while the battle was being fought. An officer of the British army, seeing that all was lost, gave them warning, said 'Boys, all is lost, clear out and make the best you can,' upon which some ran, while others unhitched their horses and rode off for their lives. Christian Schneider Jr., who carried the money-safe on his wagon, cleared out on his horses, leaving the wagon with all its contents behind. In this defeat old Adam Shupe was taken prisoner by the Americans. He was taken before General Harrison who, perceiving his innocent and harmless appearance, dismissed him and granted him permission to return to his Canadian home. He lost both his horses and wagon. Christian Schneider was away the greater part of the summer. On his first trip he had a two-horse team. After being home a few weeks he had to go again, this time with a four-horse team. During this war which lasted a little more than two years, quite a number of small battles were fought in the Niagara Peninsula and in the vicinity of Detroit. Quite a few of these Pennsylvania Dutch boys were pressed to serve as teamsters and exposed to all manner of danger, but strange to say, not one lost his life through the war.

On the 24th of December, 1814, peace was made between England and the United States, leaving each in exactly the same position as they had been before the war. After peace was restored the government of Canada fully compensated those teamsters for their losses during the war and for their valuable services. Christian Schneider Jr. was paid $5.00 a day for the time he served with a two-horse team, and $8.00 per day for a four-horse team, besides they were paid for horses and wagons that were lost during the time they served the government."


Eby, Ezra E. (1895). A biographical history of Waterloo township and other townships of the county: being a history of the early settlers and their descendants, mostly all of Pennsylvania Dutch origin: as also much other unpublished historical information chiefly of a local character. Berlin [Kitchener, Ont.]: [s.n.].

Benjamin — Mary Rykeman. Mary was born 1776; died 30 Aug 1834, Blenheim Twp., Oxford Co., Ontario, Canada; was buried , Blenheim Mennonite Cemetery, Blenheim Township, Oxford Co., Ontario. [Group Sheet]

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• Name: Mary Springer
• Eby ID Number: 00116-7293.3
• Epidemic: 1834, Blenheim Twp., Oxford Co., Ontario, Canada; Cholera

Other Events:

• Eby ID Number: 00116-7293.4

David — Margaret Oliver. Margaret was born Abt 1740; died , Hamilton, Wentworth Co., Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Name: Margaret Springer
• Eby ID Number: 00116-7293.5