Descendancy for Sophia: Waterloo Region Generations

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1 Sophia ^[1] b. 1815 d. 30 May 1885
- Henry Hilker b. 1808 d. Yes, date unknown
  - 2 Henrietta "Harriet" Hilker ^[1.1] b. 1836 d. 28 Nov 1898
    - Henry Seidewand b. 1832 d. 18 Nov 1902
      - 3 George Seidewand ^[1.1.1] b. 1856 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        + Martha Campbell b. 1863 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Caroline Seidewand ^[1.1.2] b. 1858 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        Ludwig "Louis" Ament b. 24 May 1858 d. 24 Nov 1927
        
        4 Albert E. Ament ^[1.1.2.1] b. 9 Dec 1880 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Amelia Seidewand ^[1.1.3] b. 1859 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        + Nicholas H. Hett b. 1862 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Elizabeth Seidewand ^[1.1.4] b. 1861 d. 11 Aug 1947
        
        Carl "Charles" Huras b. 14 Mar 1867 d. 10 Jul 1960
        
        4 Oscar Huras ^[1.1.4.1]
        
        4 Clayton Huras ^[1.1.4.2]
        
        4 Edward George Huras ^[1.1.4.3] b. 1 Dec 1890 d. 1981 [ =>]
        
        4 Charles Leslie "Chuck" Huras ^[1.1.4.4] b. 27 Aug 1907 d. 17 May 1965 [ =>]
        
        4 Eva May Huras ^[1.1.4.5] b. 13 May 1908 d. 6 Jun 2006
      - 3 William Seidewand ^[1.1.5] b. 1863 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Henrietta Seidewand ^[1.1.6] b. 1865 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Oliver A. Seidewand ^[1.1.7] b. 1869 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        Lillie G. Storey b. Jul 1881 d. 25 Feb 1977
        
        4 Albert Leo "Leo" Seidewand ^[1.1.7.1] b. 3 Nov 1906 d. 1986 [ =>]
        
        4 Olive May Seidewand ^[1.1.7.2] b. 26 Jul 1908 d. 5 Apr 1992
        
        4 Alva Seidewand ^[1.1.7.3] b. Dec 1910 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Pearl Seidewand ^[1.1.7.4] b. 6 Dec 1913 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 K. Lloyd Seidewand ^[1.1.7.5] b. 1916 d. 15 Dec 1971
      - 3 Arumendus Seidewand ^[1.1.8] b. 1871 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Henrietta Seidewand ^[1.1.9] b. 15 Oct 1871 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        John Wesley Turel b. 21 Sep 1874 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Eva May Turel ^[1.1.9.1] b. 27 Oct 1894 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Russel Ward Turel ^[1.1.9.2] b. 5 May 1898 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Vegro Turel ^[1.1.9.3] b. Apr 1901 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Lloyd Turel ^[1.1.9.4] b. Apr 1903 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Frederick Seidewand ^[1.1.10] b. 1874 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Annie Seidewand ^[1.1.11] b. 1877 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Ruby Seidewand ^[1.1.12] b. Jan 1881 d. Yes, date unknown
  - 2 Henry Hilker ^[1.2] b. 1841 d. Bef 1901
    - Elizabeth Barber b. 10 Sep 1850 d. 13 Sep 1911
      - 3 Francis Henry "Harry" Hilker ^[1.2.1] b. 23 Dec 1867 d. 16 Sep 1927
      - 3 Frederick Hilker ^[1.2.2] b. 1870 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 John Robert Hilker ^[1.2.3] b. 1872 d. 17 Oct 1901
        
        + Priscilla Watson b. 1874
      - 3 Alma Laurenda Hilker ^[1.2.4] b. 22 Aug 1872 d. 5 Nov 1926
        
        Adam Henry Hett b. 27 Feb 1867 d. 9 Jul 1930
        
        4 Oscar Clayton Hett ^[1.2.4.1] b. 5 Dec 1889 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Lila Hilker ^[1.2.5] b. 1877 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 George Burt Hilker ^[1.2.6] b. 16 Jun 1878 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        + Sarah Ziegler b. 31 Oct 1884 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Reuben Alway Hilker ^[1.2.7] b. 17 Feb 1883 d. 27 Aug 1932
        
        Amanda Katharine Randall b. 8 Jun 1885 d. 15 Aug 1946
        
        4 George Hilker ^[1.2.7.1] b. 2 Apr 1912 d. 16 Jun 1953 [ =>]
      - 3 Eva Hilker ^[1.2.8] b. 1884 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        + Angus Albert b. 1880 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Roxie Hilker ^[1.2.9] b. 1889 d. 2 Dec 1952
        
        Milton H. Peppler b. 24 Jun 1884 d. 14 Jun 1950
        
        4 Lloyd Peppler ^[1.2.9.1]
        
        4 Betty Peppler ^[1.2.9.2]
        
        4 Earl John Peppler ^[1.2.9.3] b. 10 Aug 1916 d. 6 Jul 1955 [ =>]
  - 2 Carolina Katharina Margaretha "Carrie" Hilker ^[1.3] b. 16 Feb 1841 d. 7 Oct 1881
    - John Voegtle b. 1835 d. 3 Sep 1887
      - 3 Ann Voegtle ^[1.3.1] b. 1862 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Amelia "Emilia" Voegtle ^[1.3.2] b. 29 May 1862 d. 1937
        
        Henry Luft b. 1 Jan 1863 d. 1932
        
        4 John William Miller ^[1.3.2.1] b. 7 Jan 1885 d. Yes, date unknown [ =>]
        
        4 Laura Emilie Luft ^[1.3.2.2] b. 5 May 1889 d. 1962
        
        4 Herbert George Henry Luft ^[1.3.2.3] b. 4 Jun 1894 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Milton Conrad Luft ^[1.3.2.4] b. 3 Jul 1900 d. 3 Jun 1984 [ =>]
        
        4 Amelia Marie Luft ^[1.3.2.5] b. Feb 1903 d. 4 Feb 1924
        
        4 Gertrude Olive Catherine Luft ^[1.3.2.6] b. 1 Sep 1903 d. 2004 [ =>]
        
        4 Walter Luft ^[1.3.2.7] b. CALC 23 Nov 1908 d. 15 Aug 1911
        
        + Wilhelm Zoerr b. CALC 25 Jun 1864 d. 9 Mar 1887
      - 3 Rachel Voegtle ^[1.3.3] b. 2 Aug 1862 d. 30 Aug 1914
        
        Conrad Heinbuch b. 2 May 1846 d. 19 Aug 1935
        
        4 Frederick Wilhelm Heinbuch ^[1.3.3.1] b. 6 Oct 1885 d. 1963
        
        4 Henry Elmor Heinbuch ^[1.3.3.2] b. 20 Jun 1889 d. 15 Aug 1889
        
        4 Albert Lambert "Burt" Heinbuch ^[1.3.3.3] b. 1 Sep 1891 d. 14 Sep 1973
        
        4 Vera Bell Heinbuch ^[1.3.3.4] b. 15 Sep 1896 d. 1975 [ =>]
        
        + Conrad Heirnbush b. 1846 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Paulina Voegtle ^[1.3.4] b. 1865 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Mary Voegtle ^[1.3.5] b. 1865 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Catharine "Katie" Voegtle ^[1.3.6] b. 11 Aug 1867 d. 28 Feb 1937
        
        Albert Hamel b. 2 Mar 1868 d. 5 Jan 1955
        
        4 Luella Hamel ^[1.3.6.1] b. 27 May 1889 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Mildred Evaline Hamel ^[1.3.6.2] b. 26 Jan 1900 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Adolphe Oliver "Oliver" Voegtle ^[1.3.7] b. 17 Jul 1870 d. 1951
        
        Priscilla "Ella" Freeman b. 28 Dec 1872 d. 9 Jan 1920
        
        4 Mabel May Voegtle ^[1.3.7.1] b. 12 Jun 1892 d. 1959
        
        4 Florence Ethel Voegtle ^[1.3.7.2] b. 19 May 1895 d. 12 Nov 1960 [ =>]
        
        4 Nettie Voegtle ^[1.3.7.3] b. 14 May 1898 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Norman Oliver Voegtle ^[1.3.7.4] b. 2 Dec 1899 d. 25 Dec 1929 [ =>]
        
        4 Melvin Stanley Voegtle ^[1.3.7.5] b. Jun 1900 d. 30 Jun 1990 [ =>]
        
        4 Violet Voegtle ^[1.3.7.6] b. 1911 d. 20 May 2001 [ =>]
        
        + Edith Krampien b. 1871 d. 1951
      - 3 William Voegtle ^[1.3.8] b. 1872 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 John Voegtle ^[1.3.9] b. 1875 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Robert Voegtle ^[1.3.10] b. 1877 d. 7 Feb 1928
      - 3 Herbert Voegtle ^[1.3.11] b. 23 Oct 1880 d. 19 Sep 1896
  - 2 Helena Hiliker ^[1.4] b. 1845 d. Yes, date unknown
  - 2 Adolph "Adam" Hilker ^[1.5] b. 1845
  - 2 Adam Hilker ^[1.6] b. 10 May 1845 d. 6 Jul 1916
    - + Marion Jane Donald b. 16 May 1846 d. 15 Dec 1922
  - 2 Catherine Hilker ^[1.7] b. 16 Sep 1847 d. 26 Jan 1921
    - + Robert Story b. 1852 d. Yes, date unknown
  - 2 Amelia Hilker ^[1.8] b. 1849 d. Yes, date unknown
    - Frank Mindle b. 6 Dec 1849 d. 20 Jul 1901
      - 3 Frank Mindle ^[1.8.1] b. 1867 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Janet Mindle ^[1.8.2] b. 1873 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Ward Mindle ^[1.8.3] b. 5 Mar 1876 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Calvin Mindle ^[1.8.4] b. 17 May 1878 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Theodore Mindle ^[1.8.5] b. 1 Jun 1880 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Robert Mindle ^[1.8.6] b. Jan 1881 d. Yes, date unknown
  - 2 Frederick W. Hilker ^[1.9] b. 1853 d. 14 Apr 1894
    - Barbara M. Dammeier b. 1 Aug 1852 d. 31 May 1927
      - 3 Magdalena "Lena" Hilker ^[1.9.1] b. 28 Feb 1873 d. 31 Jan 1949
        
        William Samuel Wright b. 23 Jul 1867 d. Jul 1953
        
        4 Florence Irene Wright ^[1.9.1.1] b. 17 Mar 1900 d. 1974 [ =>]
        
        4 Frederick William Wright ^[1.9.1.2] b. 4 Nov 1903 d. Feb 1904
        
        4 Warden Oliver John Wright ^[1.9.1.3] b. 5 Jun 1905 d. 1983 [ =>]
        
        4 Isabella M. "Isabel" Wright ^[1.9.1.4] b. 8 Feb 1908 d. 27 Dec 1986 [ =>]
      - 3 Amos Hilker ^[1.9.2] b. Aug 1876 d. 1942
        
        Anna Catharine Hett b. 20 Jan 1880 d. 1945
        
        4 Hilda Hilker ^[1.9.2.1] b. Jan 1904 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Vernona Hilker ^[1.9.2.2] b. Apr 1905 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Reinhold Frederick Hilker ^[1.9.2.3] b. May 1906 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Leroy George "Roy" Hilker ^[1.9.2.4] b. 29 May 1912 d. 24 Dec 1979 [ =>]
      - 3 Judith Sophia "Julia" Hilker ^[1.9.3] b. 3 Nov 1876 d. 1952
        
        Heinrich "Henry" Lackner b. 18 Feb 1874 d. 1944
        
        4 Edward John Lackner ^[1.9.3.1] b. 14 Sep 1902 d. 17 Aug 1910
        
        4 Viola Lackner ^[1.9.3.2] b. Dec 1903 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Luella Lackner ^[1.9.3.3] b. Aug 1905 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Clarence Lackner ^[1.9.3.4] b. Apr 1907 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Emerson Lackner ^[1.9.3.5] b. 30 Sep 1908 d. 11 Mar 1995 [ =>]
        
        4 Gordon Lackner ^[1.9.3.6] b. 14 Oct 1910 d. 17 Dec 1970
        
        4 Henry Lackner ^[1.9.3.7] b. 1911 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Oliver Lackner ^[1.9.3.8] b. 30 Nov 1913 d. 1979
        
        4 Oscar Lackner ^[1.9.3.9] b. 3 Feb 1915 d. 29 Jul 1994 [ =>]
        
        4 Arthur Lackner ^[1.9.3.10] b. 23 May 1916
      - 3 Henry Hilker ^[1.9.4] b. 10 Aug 1878 d. 15 Nov 1933
        
        Emma Bierwagen b. 9 Oct 1878 d. 2 Feb 1950
        
        4 Alvin George Hilker ^[1.9.4.1] b. Dec 1903 d. 23 Oct 1973 [ =>]
        
        4 Harold Frederick Hilker ^[1.9.4.2] b. 13 Apr 1907 d. 11 Jul 1987 [ =>]
        
        4 Florence Beatrice Hilker ^[1.9.4.3] b. 22 Mar 1909 d. 4 Jan 1937
      - 3 Frederick Samuel Hilker ^[1.9.5] b. 3 Jan 1880 d. 1976
        
        Hannah Daley b. 19 Mar 1882 d. 19 Sep 1938
        
        4 Dorothy Irene Hilker ^[1.9.5.1] b. 6 Apr 1906 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Frederick Elmore Lorne Hilker ^[1.9.5.2] b. 14 Nov 1910 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 George Elias Hilker ^[1.9.6] b. 6 Sep 1882 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        + Laura Eleanor Karn b. 1885 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Minetta "Nettie" Hilker ^[1.9.7] b. 18 Jul 1883 d. 1973
        
        Herman A. Sturm b. 4 Nov 1882 d. 1962
        
        4 Mabel May "Maybelle" Sturm ^[1.9.7.1] b. 12 Apr 1905 d. 1998 [ =>]
        
        4 Frederick Gordon Sturm ^[1.9.7.2] b. 2 Sep 1906 d. 1991 [ =>]
      - 3 John Hilker ^[1.9.8] b. 22 Jul 1883 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        + Edith Ament b. Between 1883 and 1884 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Charles W. Hilker ^[1.9.9] b. 4 May 1887 d. 25 Feb 1961
        
        Annie Frey b. 29 Jul 1889 d. 11 Mar 1959
        
        4 Clara Hilker ^[1.9.9.1] b. Aug 1910 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Clarence Hilker ^[1.9.9.2] b. 8 Aug 1910 d. 1983 [ =>]
        
        4 Elmer Hilker ^[1.9.9.3] b. 1911 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Margarette Irene Hilker ^[1.9.9.4] b. 8 Aug 1913 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Carrie Catherine Hilker ^[1.9.9.5] b. 1914 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 William Llewellyn "Buster" Hilker ^[1.9.9.6] b. 17 Aug 1918 d. 24 Feb 2006 [ =>]
        
        4 Charles Anthony Hilker ^[1.9.9.7] b. 23 Sep 1921 d. 30 Dec 1973 [ =>]
      - 3 Caroline Christina "Carrie" Hilker ^[1.9.10] b. 15 Aug 1888 d. 1982
        
        + Otto Adolph Stauch b. 9 May 1885 d. 8 Dec 1956
      - 3 Clayton Hilker ^[1.9.11] b. 17 Nov 1891 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        + Lottie Catherine Fiedler b. 13 Apr 1895 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Milton August Hilker ^[1.9.12] b. 17 Nov 1891 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        + Amelia Anna Schwartz b. 27 Jun 1892 d. Yes, date unknown
  - 2 George Hilker ^[1.10] b. 2 Jun 1853 d. 8 Sep 1931
    - Regina Koebel b. 7 Sep 1853 d. 1929
      - 3 Mary M. Hilker ^[1.10.1] b. Between 1884 and 1885 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        + John A. McCaig b. 10 Sep 1883 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Ella Hilker ^[1.10.2] b. Sep 1870 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Joseph Hilker ^[1.10.3] b. Oct 1874 d. 11 Aug 1936
        
        Elizabeth Stewart Forrest b. 19 Jun 1880 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Katie Hilker ^[1.10.3.1] b. May 1901 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Margaret Jane Hilker ^[1.10.3.2] b. 27 Dec 1903 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Barbara Elizabeth Hilker ^[1.10.3.3] b. 13 May 1907 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 James George Hilker ^[1.10.3.4] b. 10 Jul 1911 d. 1991 [ =>]
      - 3 Maria Sophia "Mary" Hilker ^[1.10.4] b. Feb 1876 d. 1962
        
        John Arsenault b. Aug 1879 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Lillian Agnes Arsenault ^[1.10.4.1] b. 21 Feb 1898 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Alberta Arsenault ^[1.10.4.2] b. May 1902 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Lawrence Francis Joseph Arsenault ^[1.10.4.3] b. 24 Dec 1904 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Mary Helen Domicilia "Helen" Arsenault ^[1.10.4.4] b. 7 May 1909 d. Bef 1987 [ =>]
        
        4 Leo Jerome Arsenault ^[1.10.4.5] b. 26 Oct 1911 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Caroline "Carrie" Hilker ^[1.10.5] b. 26 Oct 1877 d. 1 Feb 1906
        
        + William Johnston b. 19 May 1880 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Louisa "Lucy" Hilker ^[1.10.6] b. 2 Jul 1879 d. 2 Feb 1952
        
        Francis T. "Frank" Flaherty b. 14 Feb 1878 d. 3 Apr 1953
        
        4 Jack Flaherty ^[1.10.6.1]
        
        4 Clarence Sylvester Flaherty ^[1.10.6.2] b. 30 Jan 1903 d. Sep 1962
        
        4 Norma Margaret "Margaret" Flaherty ^[1.10.6.3] b. 12 Sep 1904 d. 26 Jul 1924
        
        4 Catherine Regina "Jean" Flaherty ^[1.10.6.4] b. 12 Nov 1906 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 Mary Louisa Flaherty ^[1.10.6.5] b. 1 Apr 1908 d. 30 May 1978 [ =>]
        
        4 Anna Elizabeth Flaherty ^[1.10.6.6] b. 1 Jun 1910 d. 12 May 1976 [ =>]
        
        4 Casmella May "Carmel" Flaherty ^[1.10.6.7] b. 16 May 1912 d. 2004
        
        4 Edna Florence Flaherty ^[1.10.6.8] b. 19 May 1918 d. 14 Aug 2009 [ =>]
        
        4 Edward Flaherty ^[1.10.6.9] b. 19 May 1918 d. 10 Jun 2008
      - 3 Ella N. Hilker ^[1.10.7] b. 9 Sep 1881 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Susannah "Susan" Hilker ^[1.10.8] b. 9 Apr 1883 d. 14 Jan 1910
      - 3 Edward John Hilker ^[1.10.9] b. 18 Sep 1884 d. 25 May 1953
        
        Frances Agnes O'Drowski b. 2 May 1887 d. 4 Apr 1958
        
        4 Robert Hilker ^[1.10.9.1]
        
        4 Clarence Joseph "Major" Hilker ^[1.10.9.2] b. 2 Mar 1909 d. 5 Mar 1973 [ =>]
        
        4 Edward George Hilker ^[1.10.9.3] b. 19 Jan 1912 d. 25 Sep 1981
        
        4 Mary Louise Hilker ^[1.10.9.4] b. 10 Aug 1918 d. 8 Apr 1926
        
        4 Patrick James Hilker ^[1.10.9.5] b. 14 May 1922 d. 27 Jan 1971 [ =>]
      - 3 Charles Frank Hilker ^[1.10.10] b. 29 May 1886 d. 31 Mar 1953
        
        + Lily Chesterman b. 20 Feb 1882 d. 5 Jun 1968
        
        Annie Tordoff b. Oct 1894 d. Yes, date unknown
        
        4 George Edward Hilker ^[1.10.10.1] b. 19 Feb 1916 d. 24 Aug 1988 [ =>]
        
        4 Florence Pearl Hilker ^[1.10.10.2] b. 12 Jun 1920 d. 4 Jul 1991
        
        4 Frank Hilker ^[1.10.10.3] b. 1 Jun 1925 d. 1 Jun 1925
      - 3 Charlotte "Lottie" Hilker ^[1.10.11] b. 8 Feb 1888 d. 17 Nov 1955
        
        + Charles King b. 1892 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 William Hilker ^[1.10.12] b. 28 Jun 1892 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Clara E. Hilker ^[1.10.13] b. 31 Dec 1895 d. 23 Sep 1971
        
        Walter James Mead b. 1896 d. 1948
        
        4 Donald Mead ^[1.10.13.1]
      - 3 Willie Hilker ^[1.10.14] b. Jun 1897 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Lottie Hilker ^[1.10.15] b. Feb 1899 d. Yes, date unknown
      - 3 Anne Bell Hilker ^[1.10.16] b. May 1902 d. Yes, date unknown
  - 2 Christian Hilker ^[1.11] b. 1858 d. Yes, date unknown
  - 2 Sophia Hilker ^[1.12] b. 10 May 1858 d. 8 Jun 1942
    - John Ottman b. 29 Mar 1847 d. 15 Apr 1927
      - 3 Alvin Ellsworth Ottman ^[1.12.1] b. 14 May 1885 d. 17 Oct 1944
        
        Florence Emma Sugden b. 19 Sep 1887 d. 12 Aug 1981
        
        4 Earl E. Ottmann ^[1.12.1.1] b. 1915 d. 1986 [ =>]
        
        4 Eva Ottmann ^[1.12.1.2] b. 1917
      - 3 Vera Elizabeth Ottman ^[1.12.2] b. 8 Dec 1888 d. 26 Mar 1980
        
        Henry Edward Weiler b. 5 Feb 1883 d. 1969
        
        4 Alvin Weiler ^[1.12.2.1] b. 1911 d. 1911
        
        4 Vesta May Weiler ^[1.12.2.2] b. 23 May 1912 d. 24 Dec 1999
        
        4 Elaine Marjory Weiler ^[1.12.2.3] b. 1928 d. 2001
  - 2 Christina Hilker ^[1.13] b. 1859 d. Yes, date unknown