Waterloo Region Generations
A record of the people of Waterloo Region, Ontario.

Ira Clemens Lucia[1]

Male 1822 - 1896  (73 years)


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  • Name Ira Clemens Lucia 
    Born 26 Sep 1822  Elmira, Chemung, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3, 4
    Gender Male 
    Rsrch. Note
    • From:"Deb Gosselin"

      Query for Newsletter and Website Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 19:39:51 -0400 LUCIA and CLEMENS. My great great grandfather IRA C LUCIA married Henrietta Springer 05 Oct 1845 in Preston. I have never been able to confirm the names of Ira's parents. He was born in New York. Family lore says his mother was CYNTHIA CLEMENS. In an 1880 census in Michigan in the US, Ira says his father was born in France and his mother in Canada. Also, this couple's oldest daughter MARIETTA Lucia (also spelled as Mary Etta) may have been born before their marriage. Can anyone help with info on any birth records that old or any knowledge of the Lucia family going backwards from Ira? Deb Gosselin 1015 San JUan drive SE Grand Rapids MI 49506

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      "Deb Gosselin" To:"Darryl Bonk"

      Subject:Re: Query for Newsletter and Website Date:Tue, 9 Aug 2005


      Thanks so much. The date for Manuel is interesting. I had his death as 10/25/1874 not 1871. I thought I got that off his headstone. However, if 1871 is correct, then that places his birthdate within a few days of Marietta's (depending on which of many sources you believe as to her age) so it is possible they were twins.

      The other children are:

      Cynthia A 1/1/1849 d 3/20/1917 in Lexington MI (single); twin to Sarah Sarah A 1/1/1849 (your age per 1880 census is off a bit) Note the huge gap between Marietta and Manuel to the twins. I still suspect Manuel died in 1874 rather than 1871 and thus would have been born in 1847 rather than 1844. Sarah died 2/9/1883 in Lexington (single) John Franklin 1/3/1851 d 4/27/1928 in Grand Rapids, MI Left descendents Isaac Washington 1/1/1854 d 8/16/1842 in Grand Rapids, MI May be one or two descendents Aaron Jefferson abt 1856 d abt 11/22/1918 in Lexingotn, MI married but no children Emma Jane 5/17/1859 (my great grandmother) d 12/22/1927 in North Muskegon, MI at the home of her daughter Cynthia Lucia (Husted) Gwatkin; many descendents (I'm one of nine, and have 11 cousins)

      I have always been baffled by the three younger boys having American patriot names as middle names, especially since Henrietta was doubly descended from Loyalists! Ira claimed in the 1880 census that his father was born in France and his mother in Canada, yet he was born in New York. That could make sense if the mother was a Clemens as claimed with her family originally from Pennsylvania or New York. I can envision her being shunned for marrying a non-Mennonite.

      There could also be a connection to John Bamberger. Family lore says that Ira's parents "died when he was young and he was adopted by a Pennsylvania Dutch family named Baumgartner." However, I could never find a Waterloo area family with that name. I did, however, notice that Ira bought his first land from John Bamberger and also noticed that "Marietta and James Lever" (this being Ira's oldest daughter and her husband) were legatees of Bamberger. It's possible the connection could be to the Levers, but seems too coincidental. Also, Christian Clemens was executor of the Bamberger will so there seems to be some common tie here. I have been trying to unravel this mystery for over 30 years!

      Thanks.

      Deb Gosselin
    Name C. Ira Lucia 
    Residence 1845  Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Occupation 1861  Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Farmer 
    Religion 1861  Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Methodist 
    Residence 1864  Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Upper Block Lot 124 
    Occupation 1871  Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Farmer 
    Religion 1871  Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    NC Methodist 
    Occupation 1880  Lexington, Sanilac, Michigan, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    farmer 
    Eby ID Number 00116-7311.1 
    Died 26 Mar 1896  Lexington, Sanilac, Michigan, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I10794  Generations
    Last Modified 16 Mar 2020 

    Family Henrietta Springer,   b. 30 Jun 1819, Doon (Kitchener), Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married 5 Oct 1845  Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Children 
     1. Marietta Lucia,   b. 1840, , Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     2. Emmanuel Lucia,   b. 1846, , Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     3. Immanuel Springer "Manuel" Lucia,   b. 28 Mar 1844, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 25 Oct 1871, Hespeler (Cambridge), Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 27 years)
     4. Cynthia A. Lucia,   b. 1848, , Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 Mar 1917, , Michigan Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 69 years)
     5. John Franklin Lucia,   b. 3 Jan 1851, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Apr 1928  (Age 77 years)
     6. G. F. Lucia,   b. 1849, , Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     7. Sarah A. Lucia,   b. 1852, , Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     8. Isaac Wesley Lucia,   b. 1 Jan 1854, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 16 Aug 1942, Grand Rapids, Kent, Michigan, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 88 years)
     9. Aaron Jefferson "Jefferson" Lucia,   b. 1855, , Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     10. Emma Jane Lucia,   b. 1860, , Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified 16 Mar 2020 
    Family ID F3109  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Sources 
    1. [S10] Book - Vol II A Biographical History of Waterloo Township and other townships of the county : being a history of the early settlers and their descendants, mostly all of Pennsylvania Dutch origin..., 500.

    2. [S142] Census - Michigan - 1880, Lexington, Sanilac, Michigan Film 1254605 Page Number 133C.

    3. [S604] Census - ON, Waterloo, Waterloo South - 1871, Div. 2, Pg. 7.

    4. [S2653] aaaaWaterloo Twp. 1861, Sect. 7 Page 50.

    5. [S13] Vit - - ON, Waterloo - Wellington District Marriage Register Part 1 1840-1852, Rev'd Jacob Huttner, Lutheran Minister, Preston report 53.
      Ira Lucia, married to Henrietta Springer, both of Waterloo. 5 Oct. 1845

    6. [S330] Directory - ON, Waterloo - 1864 - County of Waterloo gazetteer and general business directory for 1864.

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    Link to Google MapsBorn - 26 Sep 1822 - Elmira, Chemung, New York, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1845 - Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 5 Oct 1845 - Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Farmer - 1861 - Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsReligion - Methodist - 1861 - Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Upper Block Lot 124 - 1864 - Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Farmer - 1871 - Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsReligion - NC Methodist - 1871 - Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - farmer - 1880 - Lexington, Sanilac, Michigan, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 26 Mar 1896 - Lexington, Sanilac, Michigan, USA Link to Google Earth
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