Waterloo Region Generations
A record of the people of Waterloo Region, Ontario.

Thomas Woods

Male 1816 - 1901  (85 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Thomas Woods was born 3 May 1816, , England; died 22 Aug 1901, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

    Thomas — Margaret Dorren Donnenwerth. Margaret (daughter of Jacob Andre Donnenwerth and Catherine Margaretha "Margaret" Merklin) was born 9 Nov 1828, Buffalo, Erie, New York, United States; died 9 Jul 1900, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 2. Sally Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1847, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.
    2. 3. Henry D. Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1849, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.
    3. 4. Nathan D. Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 5 Sep 1851, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 19 Jun 1932, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.
    4. 5. Elizabeth Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1852, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.
    5. 6. Melvina Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 28 Nov 1853, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 5 Sep 1881; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.
    6. 7. Catherine Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1856, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.
    7. 8. Lydia Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1857, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.
    8. 9. Mary Ann Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 2 Dec 1858, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 21 Dec 1954; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.
    9. 10. Jane Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1859, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.
    10. 11. Amelia Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1862, , Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.
    11. 12. Hannah Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1864, , Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.
    12. 13. Jacob Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1865, , Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.
    13. 14. Victoria Alice Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 4 May 1868, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 10 Jan 1873, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.
    14. 15. Alvira "Allie" Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1 May 1870, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 4 Dec 1963, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Woodland Cem., Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.
    15. 16. Charity Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 2 Feb 1872, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 13 Feb 1952; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.
    16. 17. Jacob W. Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 19 Aug 1872, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Sally Woods Descendancy chart to this point (1.Thomas1) was born 1847, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.

  2. 3.  Henry D. Woods Descendancy chart to this point (1.Thomas1) was born 1849, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.

    Henry married Margaret Drake 14 Dec 1875, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. Margaret (daughter of Joseph Drake and Betsey) was born 1858, London Township, Middlesex Co., Ontario; died Yes, date unknown. [Group Sheet]


  3. 4.  Nathan D. Woods Descendancy chart to this point (1.Thomas1) was born 5 Sep 1851, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 19 Jun 1932, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

    Nathan married Mary Ann Perrin 27 Jan 1874, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. Mary (daughter of William Perrin and Mary Ann Newstead) was born 31 May 1852, North Dumfries Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 29 Sep 1908; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 18. Rosetta Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 19 Mar 1874, North Dumfries Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 8 Feb 1925, , Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.
    2. 19. Clarentina Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1876, , Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.
    3. 20. Clara Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 18 Aug 1876, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 30 Jun 1941, RR2, Kitchener, Waterloo Region , Ontario; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.
    4. 21. Alice Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 29 Sep 1878, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 11 Oct 1918, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , First Mennonite Cemetery, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.
    5. 22. Wilbert P. Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born Jan 1881, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 7 Mar 1891; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.
    6. 23. William Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1883, , Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.
    7. 24. William Thomas Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 28 May 1883, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 21 Sep 1966; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

  4. 5.  Elizabeth Woods Descendancy chart to this point (1.Thomas1) was born 1852, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

    Elizabeth married Fernando Godbold 4 Jul 1874, Freeport (Kitchener), Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. Fernando (son of Benjamin Godbold and Barbara Hewitt) was born 5 Jun 1853, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 5 Feb 1918. [Group Sheet]


  5. 6.  Melvina Woods Descendancy chart to this point (1.Thomas1) was born 28 Nov 1853, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 5 Sep 1881; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

    Melvina — William Townley. William was born Abt 1881; died Yes, date unknown. [Group Sheet]


  6. 7.  Catherine Woods Descendancy chart to this point (1.Thomas1) was born 1856, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.

    Catherine married John D. Parent 14 Dec 1875, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. John (son of Teolesphord Parent and Julia) was born 1848, Vermont, USA; died Yes, date unknown. [Group Sheet]


  7. 8.  Lydia Woods Descendancy chart to this point (1.Thomas1) was born 1857, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.

  8. 9.  Mary Ann Woods Descendancy chart to this point (1.Thomas1) was born 2 Dec 1858, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 21 Dec 1954; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

    Mary — John Perrin. John (son of William Perrin and Mary Ann Newstead) was born 16 Nov 1842, Hamilton, Wentworth Co., Ontario, Canada; died 2 Jul 1922, Galt (Cambridge), Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried 5 Jul 1922, Mount View Cemetery, Cambridge, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 25. Rebecca Perrin Woods  Descendancy chart to this point was born 19 Jan 1879, Mannheim, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 3 Jul 1912, Bridgeport (Kitchener), Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Mount Hope Cemetery, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

  9. 10.  Jane Woods Descendancy chart to this point (1.Thomas1) was born 1859, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.

  10. 11.  Amelia Woods Descendancy chart to this point (1.Thomas1) was born 1862, , Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.

  11. 12.  Hannah Woods Descendancy chart to this point (1.Thomas1) was born 1864, , Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.

  12. 13.  Jacob Woods Descendancy chart to this point (1.Thomas1) was born 1865, , Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.

  13. 14.  Victoria Alice Woods Descendancy chart to this point (1.Thomas1) was born 4 May 1868, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 10 Jan 1873, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

  14. 15.  Alvira "Allie" Woods Descendancy chart to this point (1.Thomas1) was born 1 May 1870, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 4 Dec 1963, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Woodland Cem., Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

    Alvira married Philip Becker 18 Apr 1894, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. Philip (son of Henry Becker and Magdalena, son of Heinrich H. "Henry" Becker and Magdalena Stoltz) was born 1 May 1869, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 14 Sep 1970; was buried , Woodland Cem., Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 26. Pearl Edna Becker  Descendancy chart to this point was born 11 Nov 1894, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.
    2. 27. Walter Weyburn Becker  Descendancy chart to this point was born 23 Jan 1896, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 3 Oct 1984.
    3. 28. Vera Mary Becker  Descendancy chart to this point was born 2 Dec 1898, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 16 Jun 1973, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Woodland Cem., Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.
    4. 29. Bertrum Becker  Descendancy chart to this point was born Oct 1904, , Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.

  15. 16.  Charity Woods Descendancy chart to this point (1.Thomas1) was born 2 Feb 1872, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 13 Feb 1952; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

  16. 17.  Jacob W. Woods Descendancy chart to this point (1.Thomas1) was born 19 Aug 1872, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.


Generation: 3

  1. 18.  Rosetta Woods Descendancy chart to this point (4.Nathan2, 1.Thomas1) was born 19 Mar 1874, North Dumfries Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 8 Feb 1925, , Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

  2. 19.  Clarentina Woods Descendancy chart to this point (4.Nathan2, 1.Thomas1) was born 1876, , Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.

  3. 20.  Clara Woods Descendancy chart to this point (4.Nathan2, 1.Thomas1) was born 18 Aug 1876, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 30 Jun 1941, RR2, Kitchener, Waterloo Region , Ontario; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

    Clara married Allen William Woelfle 1 Jun 1904, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. Allen (son of John C. Woelfle and Anne Miller) was born 10 Feb 1873, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 27 Mar 1928, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 30. Gordon Allen Woelfle  Descendancy chart to this point was born 31 Dec 1907, , Ontario, Canada; died 1995; was buried , Saint James Lutheran Cemetery, Mannheim, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.
    2. 31. Charles William Woelfle  Descendancy chart to this point was born 26 Sep 1909, , Ontario, Canada; died 1997; was buried , New Dundee Union Cemetery, New Dundee, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

  4. 21.  Alice Woods Descendancy chart to this point (4.Nathan2, 1.Thomas1) was born 29 Sep 1878, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 11 Oct 1918, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , First Mennonite Cemetery, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

    Alice married Henry D. Kinzie 1 Jan 1906, Mannheim, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. Henry (son of Abraham D. Kinsie and Susannah Detweiler) was born 2 Mar 1871, Blenheim Twp., Oxford Co., Ontario, Canada; died 6 Oct 1960, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , First Mennonite Cemetery, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 32. Ivan Nathan Kinzie  Descendancy chart to this point was born 3 Feb 1909, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 5 Jun 2002, Cambridge, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Woodland Cem., Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

  5. 22.  Wilbert P. Woods Descendancy chart to this point (4.Nathan2, 1.Thomas1) was born Jan 1881, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 7 Mar 1891; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

  6. 23.  William Woods Descendancy chart to this point (4.Nathan2, 1.Thomas1) was born 1883, , Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.

  7. 24.  William Thomas Woods Descendancy chart to this point (4.Nathan2, 1.Thomas1) was born 28 May 1883, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 21 Sep 1966; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

    William — Clara Rickert. Clara (daughter of Cyrus B. Rickert and Lovina Shantz) was born 28 Sep 1888, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 4 Jun 1955; was buried , Rosebank Community Cemetery, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet]


  8. 25.  Rebecca Perrin Woods Descendancy chart to this point (9.Mary2, 1.Thomas1) was born 19 Jan 1879, Mannheim, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 3 Jul 1912, Bridgeport (Kitchener), Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Mount Hope Cemetery, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

    Rebecca married John Henry Doerr 24 Jan 1900, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. John (son of Adam Doerr and Lovina Bechtel) was born 8 Jan 1878, Hanover, Bentinck Twp., Grey Co., Ontario, Canada; died 31 Oct 1961, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , First Mennonite Cemetery, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 33. Roxy Irene Doerr  Descendancy chart to this point was born 27 Nov 1900, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 22 Feb 1906, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.
    2. 34. Reta Doerr  Descendancy chart to this point was born Nov 1908, , Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.

  9. 26.  Pearl Edna BeckerPearl Edna Becker Descendancy chart to this point (15.Alvira2, 1.Thomas1) was born 11 Nov 1894, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.

    Pearl — Melvin "Mel" Swartz. Melvin (son of Jacob Hunsberger Swartz and Catharine Temple) was born 24 Feb 1895, , Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown. [Group Sheet]


  10. 27.  Walter Weyburn Becker Descendancy chart to this point (15.Alvira2, 1.Thomas1) was born 23 Jan 1896, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 3 Oct 1984.

    Walter married Cora Mae Hallman 22 Oct 1919. Cora (daughter of Allen C. Hallman and Elizabeth Ann "Lizzie" Clemens) was born 28 Nov 1899, , Ontario, Canada; died 13 Nov 1944. [Group Sheet]


  11. 28.  Vera Mary Becker Descendancy chart to this point (15.Alvira2, 1.Thomas1) was born 2 Dec 1898, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 16 Jun 1973, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Woodland Cem., Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

    Vera married Wesley H. "Wes" Hallman 17 Oct 1923, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. Wesley (son of Moses B. Hallman and Wilhelmina "Mina" Hertzberger) was born 7 Jan 1898, Wilmot Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 18 Jun 1983, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Woodland Cem., Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 35. William Wesley Hallman  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1930; died 8 Nov 1997, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried 13 Nov 1997, Woodland Cem., Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

  12. 29.  Bertrum Becker Descendancy chart to this point (15.Alvira2, 1.Thomas1) was born Oct 1904, , Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.


Generation: 4

  1. 30.  Gordon Allen Woelfle Descendancy chart to this point (20.Clara3, 4.Nathan2, 1.Thomas1) was born 31 Dec 1907, , Ontario, Canada; died 1995; was buried , Saint James Lutheran Cemetery, Mannheim, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

    Gordon — Anna Laura "Laura" Main. Anna (daughter of John Gilbert Main and Catharina Ernstina "Kate" Hagedorn) was born 24 Nov 1906, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 1984; was buried , Saint James Lutheran Cemetery, Mannheim, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet]


  2. 31.  Charles William Woelfle Descendancy chart to this point (20.Clara3, 4.Nathan2, 1.Thomas1) was born 26 Sep 1909, , Ontario, Canada; died 1997; was buried , New Dundee Union Cemetery, New Dundee, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

    Charles — Marjorie Irene Rellinger. Marjorie (daughter of Angus Rellinger and Cora Swartz) was born 14 Sep 1914; died 9 Apr 1983; was buried , New Dundee Union Cemetery, New Dundee, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet]


  3. 32.  Ivan Nathan Kinzie Descendancy chart to this point (21.Alice3, 4.Nathan2, 1.Thomas1) was born 3 Feb 1909, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 5 Jun 2002, Cambridge, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Woodland Cem., Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

    Ivan married Eileen Weber 14 Apr 1938. Eileen (daughter of Allen S. Weber and Abbie Selina "Selina" Snyder) was born 11 Feb 1912, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 7 Jul 1986, Cambridge, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried , Woodland Cem., Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 36. Sharon Kinzie  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 37. David Kinzie  Descendancy chart to this point

  4. 33.  Roxy Irene Doerr Descendancy chart to this point (25.Rebecca3, 9.Mary2, 1.Thomas1) was born 27 Nov 1900, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; died 22 Feb 1906, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

  5. 34.  Reta Doerr Descendancy chart to this point (25.Rebecca3, 9.Mary2, 1.Thomas1) was born Nov 1908, , Ontario, Canada; died Yes, date unknown.

  6. 35.  William Wesley Hallman Descendancy chart to this point (28.Vera3, 15.Alvira2, 1.Thomas1) was born 1930; died 8 Nov 1997, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried 13 Nov 1997, Woodland Cem., Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada.

    William — Ruth Bette Rickert. Ruth (daughter of Stanley Rickert and Katherine Clara Ellis) was born 1930; died 11 Nov 1997, Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada; was buried 13 Nov 1997, Woodland Cem., Kitchener, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 38. Roger Hallman  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 39. Richard Hallman  Descendancy chart to this point