1822 - 1896 (73 years)
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Name |
Ira Clemens Lucia |
Born |
26 Sep 1822 |
Elmira, Chemung, New York, United States [2, 3, 4] |
Gender |
Male |
Rsrch. Note |
- From:"Deb Gosselin"
Query for Newsletter and Website Date:Sun, 7 Aug 2005 19:39:51 -0400 LUCIA and CLEMENS. My great great grandfather IRA C LUCIA married Henrietta Springer 05 Oct 1845 in Preston. I have never been able to confirm the names of Ira's parents. He was born in New York. Family lore says his mother was CYNTHIA CLEMENS. In an 1880 census in Michigan in the US, Ira says his father was born in France and his mother in Canada. Also, this couple's oldest daughter MARIETTA Lucia (also spelled as Mary Etta) may have been born before their marriage. Can anyone help with info on any birth records that old or any knowledge of the Lucia family going backwards from Ira? Deb Gosselin 1015 San JUan drive SE Grand Rapids MI 49506
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"Deb Gosselin" To:"Darryl Bonk"
Subject:Re: Query for Newsletter and Website Date:Tue, 9 Aug 2005
Thanks so much. The date for Manuel is interesting. I had his death as 10/25/1874 not 1871. I thought I got that off his headstone. However, if 1871 is correct, then that places his birthdate within a few days of Marietta's (depending on which of many sources you believe as to her age) so it is possible they were twins.
The other children are:
Cynthia A 1/1/1849 d 3/20/1917 in Lexington MI (single); twin to Sarah Sarah A 1/1/1849 (your age per 1880 census is off a bit) Note the huge gap between Marietta and Manuel to the twins. I still suspect Manuel died in 1874 rather than 1871 and thus would have been born in 1847 rather than 1844. Sarah died 2/9/1883 in Lexington (single) John Franklin 1/3/1851 d 4/27/1928 in Grand Rapids, MI Left descendents Isaac Washington 1/1/1854 d 8/16/1842 in Grand Rapids, MI May be one or two descendents Aaron Jefferson abt 1856 d abt 11/22/1918 in Lexingotn, MI married but no children Emma Jane 5/17/1859 (my great grandmother) d 12/22/1927 in North Muskegon, MI at the home of her daughter Cynthia Lucia (Husted) Gwatkin; many descendents (I'm one of nine, and have 11 cousins)
I have always been baffled by the three younger boys having American patriot names as middle names, especially since Henrietta was doubly descended from Loyalists! Ira claimed in the 1880 census that his father was born in France and his mother in Canada, yet he was born in New York. That could make sense if the mother was a Clemens as claimed with her family originally from Pennsylvania or New York. I can envision her being shunned for marrying a non-Mennonite.
There could also be a connection to John Bamberger. Family lore says that Ira's parents "died when he was young and he was adopted by a Pennsylvania Dutch family named Baumgartner." However, I could never find a Waterloo area family with that name. I did, however, notice that Ira bought his first land from John Bamberger and also noticed that "Marietta and James Lever" (this being Ira's oldest daughter and her husband) were legatees of Bamberger. It's possible the connection could be to the Levers, but seems too coincidental. Also, Christian Clemens was executor of the Bamberger will so there seems to be some common tie here. I have been trying to unravel this mystery for over 30 years!
Thanks.
Deb Gosselin
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Name |
C. Ira Lucia |
Residence |
1845 |
Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada [5] |
Occupation |
1861 |
Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada [4] |
Farmer |
Residence |
1861 |
Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada [4] |
Methodist |
Residence |
1864 |
Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada [6] |
Upper Block Lot 124 |
Occupation |
1871 |
Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada [3] |
Farmer |
Residence |
1871 |
Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada [3] |
NC Methodist |
Occupation |
1880 |
Lexington, Sanilac, Michigan, USA [2] |
farmer |
Eby ID Number |
00116-7311.1 |
Died |
26 Mar 1896 |
Lexington, Sanilac, Michigan, USA |
Person ID |
I10794 |
Generations |
Last Modified |
28 Jan 2025 |
Family |
Henrietta Springer, b. 30 Jun 1819, Doon (Kitchener), Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada , d. Yes, date unknown |
Married |
5 Oct 1845 |
Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada [5] |
Children |
| 1. Marietta Lucia, b. 1840, , Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada , d. Yes, date unknown |
| 2. Immanuel Springer "Manuel" Lucia, b. 28 Mar 1844, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada , d. 25 Oct 1871, Hespeler (Cambridge), Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada (Age 27 years) |
| 3. Emmanuel Lucia, b. 1846, , Ontario, Canada , d. Yes, date unknown |
| 4. Cynthia A. Lucia, b. 1848, , Ontario, Canada , d. 20 Mar 1917, , Michigan, USA (Age 69 years) |
| 5. G. F. Lucia, b. 1849, , Ontario, Canada , d. Yes, date unknown |
| 6. John Franklin Lucia, b. 3 Jan 1851, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada , d. 27 Apr 1928 (Age 77 years) |
| 7. Sarah A. Lucia, b. 1852, , Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada , d. Yes, date unknown |
| 8. Isaac Wesley Lucia, b. 1 Jan 1854, Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada , d. 16 Aug 1942, Grand Rapids, Kent, Michigan, United States (Age 88 years) |
| 9. Aaron Jefferson "Jefferson" Lucia, b. 1855, , Ontario, Canada , d. Yes, date unknown |
| 10. Emma Jane Lucia, b. 1860, , Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada , d. Yes, date unknown |
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Last Modified |
29 Jan 2025 |
Family ID |
F3109 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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Sources |
- [S10] Book - Vol II A Biographical History of Waterloo Township and other townships of the county : being a history of the early settlers and their descendants, mostly all of Pennsylvania Dutch origin..., 500.
- [S142] Census - Michigan - 1880, Lexington, Sanilac, Michigan Film 1254605 Page Number 133C.
- [S604] Census - ON, Waterloo, Waterloo South - 1871, Div. 2, Pg. 7.
- [S894] Census - ON, Waterloo, Waterloo Twp. - 1861, Sect. 7 Page 50.
- [S13] Vit - - ON, Waterloo - Wellington District Marriage Register Part 1 1840-1852, Rev'd Jacob Huttner, Lutheran Minister, Preston report 53.
Ira Lucia, married to Henrietta Springer, both of Waterloo. 5 Oct. 1845
- [S330] Directory - ON, Waterloo - 1864 - County of Waterloo gazetteer and general business directory for 1864.
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| Born - 26 Sep 1822 - Elmira, Chemung, New York, United States |
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| Residence - 1845 - Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada |
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| Married - 5 Oct 1845 - Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada |
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| Occupation - Farmer - 1861 - Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada |
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| Residence - Methodist - 1861 - Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada |
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| Residence - Upper Block Lot 124 - 1864 - Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada |
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| Occupation - Farmer - 1871 - Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada |
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| Residence - NC Methodist - 1871 - Waterloo Twp., Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada |
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| Occupation - farmer - 1880 - Lexington, Sanilac, Michigan, USA |
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| Died - 26 Mar 1896 - Lexington, Sanilac, Michigan, USA |
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